Ngwang Ishi O Tarok!

NGWANG ISHI O TAROK

(Creationist hates speech)

SECTION (A)

The Nigerian Atheists are on face book, new members are welcome, in Northern Nigeria, and we have only five members in the group, one from Gombe state, the only female, and another one from Bauchi state, and three from Plateau state, all the three are from Langtang North. The American Atheists offer to be the sponsors; we are reaching out to other atheists groups in different countries to come out for the propagation of science and logic among the creationist. You are invited to join us, you can be a closet atheist, and your identity will not be made public. Join us. 9/5/2012

By Nandip

Comments from the creationist:

·        Dan M. Mamven

Who are these three I may ask? Thanks

·        Andrew Nandip

Yes, myself, my elder brother and a student from University of Jos, identity confidential.

·        Lambert Tyem

A fool has said in his heart that there is no God. But God will laugh at him. Guy, I belief God that one day this zeal of yours will be judiciously use for the glory of our God almighty in Jesus name.

·        Dan M. Mamven

Is Ok confidential?

·        Dan M. Mamven

I didn’t ask this without any meaning behind is sha I wish you best in life amen. More grease to your elbow.

·        Andrew Nandip

@Lambert, you can say what you want; I am not longer going to argue with anybody.

·        Dan M. Mamven

@Andy what is bad in what Lambert said? That is a good prayer.

·        Igbarman Otarok

I want to join but I believe in God. So what happens?

·        Martina Nansik Lar

Wonders shall never end and end time.

·        Binde Youngmillionairess Lohkat

If they believe in what they are doing, why hiding some people identity? I am so proud of what I believe in.

·        Nanyi Shanpepe Nimzing

It’s difficult to convince the monkey that strawberry is sweeter than banana, please everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, I kyale ove please.

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

Please allow them, the fact that they are hiding their identity already tells that they don’t believe in what they do and are afraid of God almighty. Good luck but let me remain us all that this is raining season and thunder fit strike anytime.

·        Ganfa GD Dandam Zamko

@Lambert, exercise restraint.

@Andrew, give more insight and information of your programmer’s. Face book and this page are viable for recruitments of young minds who seek wide ranging beliefs. I salute your doggedness congratulation to your willing folks.

·        Manchang Bulus Dul

Ganfa

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

Ganfa, from grail message to this. You don de lost true true o. lol

·        Tali Diya Dindam Micheal

Sorry not here, we here believe in God

·        Andrew Nandip

@Igbarman, a friend is always a friend no matter his belief, I think we can rob mind together. @Ganfa, no recruitment, our first conference will take place in Kogi state, there we will invite people. During the conference, the public will know our aim and objective. Thank you, I appreciate your understanding.

·        Dan Zitta

Lol… Nandip, do your thing. Nothing do you.

·        Mike Vongtau

·        The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it…. Any day, any time light will always dispels darkness… selah

·        Tali Diya Dandam Michael

Andrew the first disciple of Jesus a believer, Paul a strong believer who was of course a convert. How comes you are bearing the names of believers of God? Even the Nan in your Nandip is telling you that God is real.

·        Lulufa Vongtau

I strongly believe in the free exercise of religion or lack of thereof, and the freedom of speech and also in proselytizing where I draw the line is when fraternities are known or understood by very few, mysterious, secret, obscure, esoteric. And when you underscore this by the offer sponsorship by foreign organization, one tends to question the legitimate motives of such proselytizing. This assembly is overwhelmingly Christian and such aggressive and seemingly confrontational posts can easily be misconstrued. When five (5) Chelsea supporters, enter into a den of 2000 Arsenal supporters it is unnecessary to taint the other side. I admire your principles Nandip, too many people these days are not honest to their convictions, but I must question your motives. You need to be more diplomatic.

·        Zingkur Tyem

The controversial ANP is at it again. Nothing do you bro

·        Andrew Nandip

@Lulufa. You are saying this house belong to the Christians? While, I am sorry, you should have put it this way: NGWANG ISHI ONIM GAN WOP INAN. Not ngwang ishi o tarok. I think you don’t know the history of your culture and tradition.

·        Lulufa Vongtau

An atheist does not believe in God, or any gods for that matter. For you to speak of culture and tradition or question my knowledge of same is not only absurd but indicate your intellectual capacity is outweighed by the issues at hand. I doubt if you understand what I said, your response digressed.

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

The last time I checked, the Tarok people were, are not and will never be a Godless people. As Tali rightly mentioned, please drop OUR name. It’s the belief in our God of Abraham that brought about all your names.

·        Daniel Cirman

·        After being struck on his way to Damascus, Paul said, who are you Lord? Somebody needs a heavenly slap. Maybe the road to Kogi will do.

·        Nanbol King

I think this guy needs to be sack out this group. Stop preaching unethical things in this place. Africans believe in God. I think next thing will be that you have open Gay group… you are a shame to Tarok Nation.

·        Nangwang Rindap

Bros, wake up.

·        Manchang Bulus Dul

@Nanbol, please he is our brother, keep him within you maybe one day he will change, Christ came for the unrighteous but truly from statistic he gave their membership, they are a disgrace to the Tarok Nation because our traditional worshippers belief in a supreme God but mode of worship differs with Christianity.

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

Do we wait until he corrupts a few of our young innocent once before we rebuke him? Can’t help but to wonder if he would still say such if he was in a Muslim dominated group…..

·        Dan Zitta

Come on Pirfa, he doesn’t have what it takes. That guy has become my comedian of late. I am seriously enjoying his display of ignorance. I was taught by two sound atheists; Zubin Bungara is a missionary now. As Cirman has pointed out, his conversion may come after a strike. Lol….

·        Andrew Nandip

The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next. Ralph Waldo Emerson. @Zitta

·        Lambert Tyem

Please let stop promoting him with further comments. The Bible said the man that wanders in the midst of the blind shall remain in the congregation of the dead.

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

Anyway Dan Zitta you are right. Sometimes is loneliness is the causes of this kind of seeking of attention.

·        Bolcit Patience Barshep

And I thought that the rumor about the Church of Satan was false. Hmmmmm, a beg Paul in your context of understanding, kindly enlighten a curious mind who an atheist is a beg.

·        Harry Selbar

Only a fool says in his heart there is no God, please let be careful Ogenang.

·        Venfa Mams

Even DEVIL himself knows there is God its we humans that want to think otherwise.

·        Nanman Kumswa

The devil is a lair. I pray for your repentance kawai.

·        Samuel Ibrahim Ibs

Admms, please how do I sign out of this group? Inbox detail please.

·        Emmanuella Zhianan Lombin

This guy was sent to cause disunity among us. Whoever send you agent of darkness. Go back and tell them you all bunch of failures… no one give a monkey ass what you believe in but then keep your beliefs to your miserable self…. Mthceww. Nkalang may apology for this comment.

·        Venfa Mams

I guest this guy don’t know that his name contains God in it because if you don’t make such comment. Don’t try challenging God you will not like the result. I believe people that don’t believe there is God are not human because they are ungrateful people. Are you a human?

·        Nanbol King

Please who is the admin? He should remove this guy shikenan. No need to waste time.

·        Domnan ‘Sphinx’ Miner

Why should he be kicked out of N10, because he doesn’t conform? His religious inclinations do not make him any less of a member. I thought we so called Christians should show love, pity we always jump at instance, like this with bigotry. I am not an atheist neither am in support of their movement but calling for his member’s deletion on this basis is wrong and this group would get a precedence that would hunt us. If Andrew is kicked out solely on basis of religion, I would gladly withdraw my membership. My 2 kobos worth.

·        Dapyen Selly

Please, what is this guy still doing on N10, we can’t stand and watch someone from nowhere to come and cause disunity among us. Admin please take note of this guy.

·        Ganfa GD Dandam Zamko

Reading this can’t be more interesting. @Andrew would wish you to provide Bolcit answers. I  May also learn. Anyway, pray I meet you soon, just to compare note in regards to our beliefs.

·        Nanman Kumswa

God has really buried some people. I will watch the name I give my children.

·        Manchang Bulus Dul

A Christian is suppost to show love, leave by example. What kind of Christ like Christians are we? Our God is not helpless as ‘Allah’ why are we doing the fight for him? The battle is mine, so say the lord.

·        Binde Youngmillionairess Lohkat

Hmmm, sisters and brothers don’t get upset. Let us take it easy and let us all remember that all Paul needs from us is love and not condemnation. Let us leave a Christ like life style. Ask yourselves what will Jesus do?

·        Jesse Nanden Zwalda

???

·        Igbarman O Tarok

I sincerely appeal for calm. The issue of Andrew Nandip and the unity of the house has been of critical concern to me personally I am worried about the level it has taken. For the sake of peace to reign and accordance with recent measures of promoting peace, I request the admin to remove this post from our bad history and caution that no further comments be made in this regards. Anything that will divide people must be discouraged. Again, let peace reign and let love prevails.

·        Domnan ‘Sphinx’ Miner

The most pathetic thing is that the people quick to throw stones don’t even know what atheism is about; please it has nothing to do with the Church of Satan/Satanism. Instead of criticizing, why not ask and seek enlightenment. I must comment Andrew Nandip, all his post here has been met with harsh reactions yet he has been able to coordinate himself without being insult to anyone. I am so challenge by this; WE Christians should be equally accommodating.

·        Nanman Kumswa

How can you throw a bomb in a house and expect its occupants to relax and be calm? The person who throw the bomb is calm because he is at a distance watching the destructions the bomb is causing, just like Boko Haram except that he’s worse. And mind you, there are radical Christians too, who can’t see such a post and be quiet. I miss the days of Paul Gindiri.

·        Caleb Zingbut Nimyel

All this comment makes no meaning to me.

·        Nanman Kumswa

At Caleb if you have not read Nandip’s previous post, then this may not really make scene to you.

·        Caleb Zingbut Nimyel

Nanman K, this house is always pay interest on what is not important, if I felt is the best and will invite you to join me, is left for you to make your choice. Why must we make meaningless to be meaningful.

·        Nanman Kumswa

Now, I get you, Caleb

·        Domnan ‘Sphinx’ Miner

Seriously? Like really? Really??

·        Caleb Zingbut Nimyel

At Nanman K. Thank you a lot.

·        Igbarman O Tarok

See how we have patronized this man Andrew Nandip, he made the same post on the other sister wall and nobody commented and it died a natural death but here over sixty (60) comments was recorded. Let’s learned to ignore some of these things despite how provocative they may be. If you are bathing in a river and a mad man came and remove your clothe and ran away with it, will you follow him naked? Who then is mad?

·        Nanyak Janfa

I agree with Domnan and I also agree with Cirman. Ai maganin shawulu sai Damascus…. The road to Kogi will certainly do.

·        Nandom Nelson

Hmmmm Oga the issue of atheist at this period of bomb blast? For me that will be good when there is normal peace in the country, because atheist believed that the Christian God does not exist.

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

Thank God I am not an admin, because I won’t sit down and see something that is divdding the unity we are trying to salvage and let it be, our belief in God is part of our culture and anything to contrary should be fought tooth and nail……. Or deleted!

HOW BAD WAS JEZEBEL?

SECTION (B)

For more than two thousand year years, Jezebel has been saddled with a reputation as the bad girl of the Bible, the wickedest of women. This ancient queen has been denounced as a murderer, prostitute and a enemy of God, and her name has been adopted for lingerie lines and world war2 missiles alike. But just how depraved was Jezebel? Because she was a foreign idol worshiper, and worshiped a swarm of gods and goddesses, chief among them was Baal. She was certainly raised to honor the deities of her native land. When Jezebel comes to Israel, she brings her foreign gods and goddesses-especially Baal. Jezebel does not accept King Ahab’s God Yahweh.  

–Biblical Archeology

Let apply Jezebel issue to ourselves, when the missionaries came to Tarok land with their foreign gods namely; Jesus, Mary, Holy Spirit & God, we are very fast to abandon our ancestry religion and belief, accept a foreign gods that has never helped you, is nothing to compared to our traditional belief, we turn out to be radical followers of these strange gods and try to crucify any person that challenge the existence of these Christian gods, that was force on our ancestors, those that resist the worship of Jesus Christ, Mary, Holy Spirit and God were killed and the family enslaved  by those missionaries. Jezebel never accepted the worship of Yahweh the God of Jew, because of the strong belief in her traditional religion, the Deuteronomist demonist her. The question is how bad was Jezebel?

‘I idolize Jezebel’ 18/5/2012.

Comments from the creationists.

·        Pirtim Andrew Bali

This should come to you as a resounding warning. I don’t think we should be equally yoke with you. I am moving for a motion for your suspension from this group due to the arrogance of your submission against the believe of 99% of the members in this group. There are other religion asides Christianity. Your pompous outburst is blind against Islam, Buddhism etc. I am now convinced your post is share disrespect for us and Christianity on which we bestow our faith. I hate pretentious piety but you must take heed that I will not allow you to corrupt our good judgment of Christ. Remove this post or with the support of like mind we will remove you…

·        Ponsak Saintposkis Bigun

It’s better to keep silent and be taught a fool than to talk and dispel all doubts. This piece is trash not necessary because it’s blasphemous but philosophically shallow which is definitely not worth commenting on so I guess you mean it as a direct insult on Christians. You should have been taught as a child to respect people and choice. Jesus love you.

·        Peter Kumbin

@Andrew Nandip,, Jezebel is as bad as your write up.

·        Konkat Tali

@Nandip, are atheists idol worshippers too???

·        Andrew Nandip

@Konkat,” idolize” means, Admire or love somebody so much. I up you get it.

·        Pirtim Andrew Bali

He is due to leave, he belongs to other groups… he can continue his preaching there, I move for his suspension.

·        Nanyi Shanpepe Nimzing

I second a beg

·        Pyennap Dorcas

Nandip, when will you stop causing havoc to this great house? You should go with your believes

·        Pyenna Dorcas

Nandip, God passes you, kindly remove this post.

·        Selnan Uzochukwu Bikang

It’s long overdue for this guy to be walked out. Mtchew

·        Nansel Ramson

Let him repent of his doing. If he refuses then, we get him out. We can’t allow anybody to introduce some strange teaching to us. WE BIND HIM OR HER IN JESUS NAME.

·        Nangwang Rindap

@P A Bali, we serve a living God, he doesn’t demands we fight for him like the Ishmaelite. He will fight his battle. I hope Nandip will not learn his lesson in a bitter way. Let him learn from Saul, Pharaoh etc. let him be, he is Tarok.

·        Remikat Kumbin

Anti-Christ??????????????????????????????

·        Nanbol Nannim

I don’t think this guy is a Tarok. Just have a look at the number of subscription to face book, take a deep reflection on the meaning of Andrew Nandip and you will understand my position. If really you are Andrew Nandip, you had better change your name before taking this blasphemous path.

·        Nanbol King

Why are we wasting time on this guy?????? Why are we not acting as Tarok people? This guy needs to be sack.

·        Nanbol King

He needs to be avoided…. Now, ahhh…. This guy is a shame to us as a family.

·        Emmanuella Zhaianan Lombin

You think you’re posting this to provoke somebody? Joker… on judgment day you will stand alone. Serious OYO FOR YOU @Andra I second….

·        Zingkur Tyem

It seems we have not learned from ANP’s modus of operandi. He posts whatever he likes knowing he has set a foundation for controversy, he then disappears into thin air without further comments, leaving in his trails angry comments, criticism and outburst that don’t seem to mean anything to him. The best way to cut this guy off is not to comment on outrageous post such as this.

·        Yenzembali Dompyal Lombin

Zingkur Tyem your words would have been mine if I saw this earlier. Let’s ignore this please. As much as kicking him out appeals to me, an adage flashes in my mind that your ear itches doesn’t mean you should cut it off, let’s pardon his ignorance and remember we can’t fight God’s battle. MY GOD CAN NEVER BE RIDICULED.

QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF

SECTION (C)

1.     Is it not likely that had you been born in Kano you would been a Muslim and, as more than 9,401,000.00 million people do, would believe that “there is no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet”?

2.     If you have been born in Calcutta would you not in all probability be a Hindu and, as 700 million people do, accept the Vedas and Upanishads as the sacred scriptures and hope sometimes in future to dwell in Nirvana?

3.     Is it not probable that, had you been born in Jerusalem, you would be a Jew as Jesus is, and as some 13 million people do, believe that Yahweh is God and that Torah is God word?

4.     Is it not likely that you, the reader are a Christian because your parents were before you?

5.     If there is a loving God, why does he permit-much less create; earthquake, droughts, floods, tornadoes, and other natural disasters which kill thousands of innocent men, women and children’s every year?

6.     How can a loving, omnipotent father permit much less create cerebral palsy, brain cancer, leprosy, Alzheimer’s, HIV AIDS, and other incurable illnesses to inflict millions of men, women and children, most of whom are decent people?

7.     How could a loving heavenly father create an endless Hell and, over the centuries, put millions of people to it because they do not or cannot or will not accept certain religious beliefs? And, having done so, how could he torment them forever?

8.     Why are there literally hundreds of Christian’s denominations and independent congregations, all of them basing their beliefs on the Bible, and most of them convinced that all the others are, in some ways wrong?

9.     If God is a loving father, why does he so never answer his needy children’s prayers?

10.            How can one believe the Biblical account of the Creation of the world in six days when every eminent Physicist agree that all living species have evolved over millions of years from a primitive beginning?

Comments from the Creationist.

·        Byenji Alexzandra Dauda

@Martina, Haba just his thoughts, don’t allow things like this wave you off your hits ko….. Everyone is entitled to their opinion…. @Andrew, nice choice of words…. We all have our faith, believes, culture, traditions, norms and what have you….. And so its tell for us to make our choice KO ya? Whether by mistake, chance, luck or right where ever we are coming from is not the matter because we do things in life is what really counts.

·        Zingdul Zingfa

Read more of the Bible and one day God will speak to your inner mind. Know that you were not evolved from any primitive being but created by God almighty to do his good works.

·        Nanyi Shanpepe Nimzing

Gosh. Please lets discipline ourselves to ignore the next post this dude put up please… he’s seeking attention and we’re satisfying him by commenting please.

·        Binde Youngmillionairess Lohkat

Andrew you never cease to amaze me. Have you forgotten that Devil is the Prince of the world? God does not cause any sickness or diseases, the devil does. God does not cause disasters to happens, the devil does. Everyone on earth was created for a reason but at the same time God offered us with choices. Look, millions died in that earthquake but I believe that the sons of God were also saved from that disaster. It is only a FOOL that will say there is no God.

·        Dan Zitta

I feel good having you around, believe me, I will always strive to have you. Now reason like this; if you believe there is no God and later discovers he doesn’t exist, you have lost nothing. But if you assume there is no God and later discover his existence, you sure bet you have lost all.

·        Nangwang Rindap

There are only two ways to be popular, you either stupidly popular or goodly popular; Andrew P has chosen the former.

·        Andrew Nandip

@Binde, I never belief, devils, demons, angels, God or Witches existed. How will you convinced me that the natural disasters were cause by devils or Satan?

·        Ponnap Zwalfa

His talents and belief are better utilized at LANGTANG Mountains, I mean IBIARI WORSHIP, and he is using it in a wrong environment.

·        Jonah Fadul Barnabas

As long as you use your natural senses to reason things, you would never know who God is or his person…. There are several others like you around the world, using their natural sense to explain God. God is a spirit, you must have a regenerated spirit to understand him… by my past studies I can say a lot of things about science and evolution… for your information science says everything continues to stay in one position or move towards a change except stopped by some external forces… which is the next species of humans are going to evolved to… as per the destruction and sicknesses around WHO told you God is responsible? Your natural sense when not in unison with your spirit to contact and know God would only tell you what you have made up your mind to know irrespective of higher truth.

·        Remikat Kumbin

At all, we all have freedom of expression here but let me remind some people that silence is golden. Even a fool is thought wise when he is silence. This page is not created to satiate any anti-Christ. We don’t need any one to engage us in some stupid, unreasonable and purposeless investigations. Most importantly, some of us cannot stand having unknown brat worrying us with his emptiness. Seeking for notice by displaying your folly is cheap. Try something more expensive-like wisdom. At Pirtim; sorry, if I have broken the rules here but some issues just have to be addressed in a language those concerned will understand.

·        Philemon Dantim

Do you know why I grow stronger in Christianity? It is because every other belief tends to discredit the most powerful, omnipotent, omnipresent, I am that I am lily of the valley and the most merciful… God of the Christian and yet show mercy… common bro try to post this on any wall of Muslim fellow, I promise you that you will not live to see the next day.

·        Tali Diya Dindam Michael

Again I remind you of the name you are bearing, Andrew the first disciple of Jesus Christ. It will be foolish to bear somebody name who believes that in the beginning was the world and the world was with God.

·        Lambert Tyem

Why do guys like to make this guy feel he is something by commenting on his post? Just ignore him and by the time he discover that this is not the right place for him he fissile out naturally.

·        Quincie-Byenchit Wuyep

Thank you Lambert.

·        Emmanuel Mamven Nickson

I tell you all the simplicity of the Gospel makes it complicated for canal mind to understand.

·        Rosenana Dantim

Andrew Nandip what a write up, but come to think of this if you believe God don’t exist how did you come into being? Also just to remind you that my God answers all prayers it depend on your faith to receive the answer. Remember God created those Physicists who tell you all living species have evolved over millions of years ago. Come to think of this hell was created for the devil and his angels not for us. Read the Bible and pray God will open your eyes to know him one day. God bless you.

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

Ok let’s assume that God doesn’t really exist then what?

·        Killi Dindam

Is it not likely that our brother (as so many others) has started entertaining doubts and needs some reassurances-is it not possible that the trials and tribulations of this present life have gotten through to our and so needs our support to weather the storm? Is it not the fact that too much reading does corrupt the mind? Is it not probable that if we ignore this post and its implications, error will preserver? THEN LETS PRAY FOR THE CASTING AWAY OF SUCH THOUGHTS.

·        Pirfa Haruna Penzin

Nothing do you guy, he just needs to be severely shagged by one of our very gifted sisters. Lol

·        Nanyi Shanpepe Nimzing

Kai Pirfa….. lmfaoo.

This is for our future record.

While, an innocent invitation turn out into insults, a simple question asked turn out into abuses and the questions we have to ask ourselves turn out into confrontations. And you are busy posting shit about Jesus, Mary, Holy Spirit and God and you call this group NGWANG ISHI O TAROK and you never post anything about Tarok Culture or Tradition! You only believe in a fictional story like this:

·        In the time of our ancestors, a man was born to a virgin mother with no biological father being involved.

·        The same fatherless man called out to a friend called Lazarus, who had been dead long enough to stink, and Lazarus promptly came back to life.

·        The fatherless man himself came alive after being dead and buried three days.

·        Forty days later, the fatherless man went up to the top of a hill and then disappeared bodily into the sky.

·        If you murmur thoughts privately in your head, the fatherless man, and his ‘father’ (who is also himself) will hear your thoughts and may act upon them. He is simultaneously able to hear the thoughts of everybody else in the world.

·        If you do something bad, or something good, the same fatherless man sees all, even if nobody else does. You may be rewarded or punished accordingly, including after your death.

·        The fatherless man’s virgin mother never died but was ‘assumed’ bodily into heaven.

·        Bread and wine, if blessed by a priest (who must have no testicles), ‘become’ the body and blood of the fatherless man.

This is the type of story that the fake Tarokman or woman that called he or herself a Christian want to read. Anthropologist like Dr (Prof) Elias Nankap Lamle should write a Book about the traditional religion of the Tarok people called TAROK TRADITIONAL RELIGION BIBLE sale it to our neighboring community, force them to believe in our traditional religion, the way the Christians did and also export it abroad. Our Nobel leader, Hon Barr Solomon Dalun has done his best of promoting Tarok Traditional Religion through his songs.

How on earth did a Tarokman become a Christian?

My best regards goes to the Tarok’s more polished and thoughtful people that commented on the post in order of their comments and contributions, In Ngwang Ishi O Tarok.

1.   Domnan ‘Sphinx’ Miner

2.  Ganfa GD Dandam Zamko

3.  Igbarman O Tarok (Solomon Dalun)

Thank you all

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